<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!-- name="generator" content="blosxom/2.0" -->
<!DOCTYPE rss PUBLIC "-//Netscape Communications//DTD RSS 0.91//EN" "http://my.netscape.com/publish/formats/rss-0.91.dtd">

<rss version="0.91">
  <channel>
    <title>Harold Carr  08 2004</title>
    <link>http://www.haroldcarr.net</link>
    <description>Harold Carr</description>
    <language>en</language>

  <item>
    <title>Pierre Joris points out poets</title>
    <link>http://www.haroldcarr.net/2004/08/05#2004-08-05-pierreJorisPointsOutPoets</link>
    <description>
&lt;p&gt;In his essay, &quot;Notes toward a Nomadic Poetics&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.albany.edu/~joris/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt; Pierre&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.albany.edu/english/fac/joris.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Joris&lt;/a&gt; points out poets of interest:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;itemizedlist&quot;&gt;&lt;ul type=&quot;disc&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nataniel Mackey - foundational noise&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.novarina.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Valere Novarina&lt;/a&gt; - theatre - ludic nomadology of names that dissolves character into a
 fluidity...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://inside.bard.edu/~kelly/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Robert Kelly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/s_z/tolson/tolson.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Melvin Tolson&lt;/a&gt; - bifacial multi-phasic poet&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kateb-yacine.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Kateb Yacine&lt;/a&gt; - multiple
  life-long text&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jerome Rothenberg&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.albany.edu/english/fac/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Don Byrd&lt;/a&gt; - leads us through the &quot;mesocosm - the dense locale of the common,
 that is absorbed by the exaggeration of symbolism, on the one hand,
 and by mere biology, on the other.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leslie Scalapino - reading ... so slow ... no content ... motion is a thing in itself&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Edouard Glissant - poetics of the diverse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soton.ac.uk/~bepc/poets/fisher.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Allen Fisher&lt;/a&gt; -  investigation into all our knowledges - 
  the great serial constructive derive...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lynn Hejinian - border worker&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Michel Deguy - hospitality&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Abdelwahab Meddeb - allography&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/m_r/rukeyser/rukeyser.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Muriel Rukeyser&lt;/a&gt; - life as necessarily political, as needing to
     be engaged at all levels&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nicole Brossard - quest for and conquest of meaning&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drunkenboat.com/db3/bernstein/bernstein.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Charles Berstein&lt;/a&gt;- invention is not a choice&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nicolepeyrafitte.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Nicole Peyrafitte&lt;/a&gt; - wild metonymic grammar of desire - no fictional single static point&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shadoof.net/in/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;John Cayley&lt;/a&gt; - Indra's Net - cyberpoetics&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jed Rasula&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Franco Beltrametti&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.naropa.edu/faculty/hollo.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;Anselm Hollo&lt;/a&gt; - writing nomadically in a language that is not his mother-tongue&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;All language is found -- or given. Language does not belong
to us.  One does not own language or does not create language, one
is invited into it.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.albany.edu/~joris/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;mediaobject&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.haroldcarr.net/blog/books/pierreJoris.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nicolepeyrafitte.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;mediaobject&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.haroldcarr.net/blog/books/nicolePeyrafitteNix3x.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
  </item>
  <item>
    <title>Carr's Differentities and Pierre Joris's Nomad Poetics</title>
    <link>http://www.haroldcarr.net/2004/08/03#2004-08-03-differentitiesAndNomadPoetics</link>
    <description>
&lt;p&gt;In the spring I reported on my reading of Umberto Eco's &lt;span class=&quot;emphasis&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Serendipities&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, in particular the search or restoration
of the &quot;the language of Adam&quot; - the mother tongue.  Now I'm reading
Pierre Joris' &lt;span class=&quot;emphasis&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;A Nomad Poetics&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, which I came across in
the philosophy/critical theory section of the Santa Cruz Bookshop last
Saturday while in California.  PJ goes in the opposite direction:
&quot;There is no mother tongue ... nor any linguistic universals, only a
throng of dialects ... Language is an essentially heterogeneous
reality&quot; - citing Deleuze and Guattari.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;emphasis&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;A Nomad Poetics&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; is a collection of essays from
1990 to 2002.  The essays relate to my B/E, Poet's Apprentice and
Differentities work: In a dictionary &quot;the end of every definition
leads out of the dictionary into the old uncanny other lives of the
word, showing even the most familiar word to be a changeling, a
mutation, a creature from some black lagoon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My Differentities centers on the &quot;black lagoon,&quot; creating a
web of identities and differences of words, ideas and concepts leading
to a poiesis (i.e., process of creation) in which everything moves
and is connected in a network of Differentities.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;The days of anything static, form, content, state are over.
The past century has shown that anything not involved in continuous
transformation hardens and dies. ... There is no at-home-ness here but
only an ever more displaced drifting.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;1) that language has always to do with the &lt;span class=&quot;emphasis&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, in fact, for the writer IS the &lt;span class=&quot;emphasis&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;2) that there is no single &lt;span class=&quot;emphasis&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, there are
only a multitude of them --- plurality; even multitudes of different
multitudes --- hetero-pluralities.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;3) ... writing as nomadic practice --- on the move from one
other to another other.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;[3a: the critic/theorist: the dog that barks as the caravan passes]&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;4) ... a between-ness as essential nomadic condition, thus
always a moving forward, a reaching, a tending. (I hear the need for
both tension and tenderness). and an absence of rest, always a
becoming, a line-of-flight [as against Being, which is always a
being-toward-death, stillness].&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My Differentities foregrounds the between-ness - the links or
trails from one camp (&lt;span class=&quot;emphasis&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;a definition is a temporary resting
place&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;) to another.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In my first attempt at Differentities, via the Poet's
Apprentice program in the early 80s, where I replaced words in tests
with only words deriving from Old English or Germanic, a computer
science professor commented it sounded fascist or like a Nazi program.
He was accurately pointing out tendencies in the original Old English
focused version (tending to the language of Adam) - although he missed
the overall goal: poiesis - the curiosity to see/hear where it leads.
Now, 20 years later, as the Poet's Apprentice has developed into
Differentities, the focus is clear - to play in the muck of the black
lagoon of the origins and emergence of sounds, syllables, syntax and
semantics.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;... or, as Pierre Joris puts it, &quot;... total miscegenation is
the only goal we believe in.  Purity is the root of all evil.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Or, citing Nathaniel Mackey's &lt;span class=&quot;emphasis&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Discrepant
Engagement&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;: &quot;... in the interest of opening presumably closed
orders of identify and signification, accent fissure, fracture,
incongruity, the rickety, imperfect fit between word and world - the
creaking of the word - the noise upon which the word is based, the
discrepant foundation of all coherence and articulation.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
  </item>
  <item>
    <title>Nicole Brossard's desire and thought</title>
    <link>http://www.haroldcarr.net/2004/08/03#2004-08-03-brossardDesireAndThought</link>
    <description>
&lt;p&gt;&quot;For me poetry is the highest probability of desire and
thought synchronized in a meaningful voice.&quot; - Nicole Brossard&lt;/p&gt;

</description>
  </item>
  <item>
    <title>another death</title>
    <link>http://www.haroldcarr.net/2004/08/02#2004-08-01-anotherDeath</link>
    <description>
&lt;p&gt;Recently, Flavia spent 10 weeks in Chile - mid-March through
May - helping her step-father recover from hip-replacement surgery.  I
worked from Sun's Santiago office for 3 weeks in the middle of that
period so we didn't have to spend so much time apart.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Flavia returned to the states the first week of June.  The rest
of the month was very pleasant with mild temperatures, afternoon
thunderstorms, the farmer's market, the Utah Arts Festival, the SL
Jazz Festival and working on our yard and enjoying reading and having
dinners on our porch.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then, on Sunday, July 18, after a drive in the mountains, she
got a call from her brother, their father had died.  Her cry was long
and deep.  The next afternoon Flavia was on a flight to Chile,
arriving the following day and going straight to the funeral.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;She is still in Santiago now, helping her mom adjust to a life
without her partner of 40+ years.  Here is Flavia with her mom and dad
last April and May:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haroldcarr.net/photos/2004/04-05/2004-04-05-FlaviasParentsInChile/2004-04-05-FlaviasParentsInChile.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;mediaobject&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.haroldcarr.net/photos/2004/04-05/2004-04-05-FlaviasParentsInChile/2004-04-05-FlaviasParentsInChile-Thumbnails/24.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;caption&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haroldcarr.net/photos/2004/04-05/2004-04-05-FlaviasParentsInChile/2004-04-05-FlaviasParentsInChile.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot;&gt;more pictures...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
  </item>
  <item>
    <title>bewilderment</title>
    <link>http://www.haroldcarr.net/2004/08/02#2004-08-01-bewilderment</link>
    <description>
&lt;p&gt;Death, a confrontation with the unknown - with the past,
present and future - with your small place in the universe.  I feel
myself rushing back and forth within a seemingly irreconcilable set of
imperative: poetry, music, science and technology, nature - each demanding
a total commitment I can only cycle through.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Reading scientific articles one is reassured of the exact
deliberations enacted to obtain and exercise knowledge.  But the messy
details of life are hidden in the background.  That's where poetry comes
in - revealing false starts, confusions, desperation - a beating heart.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Paraphrasing Fanny Howe's &lt;span class=&quot;emphasis&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Wedding Dress&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;:
written science foregrounds narrative movements around courage,
discipline, conquest and fame.  Whereas poetry can be open to the
whole of life, with multiple &quot;I&quot;'s, where error, errancy and
bewilderment are the main force that signal a story.  In place of
conquest we have weakness, fluidity, concealment and solitude in a
kind of dream world.  In dreaming, there is a dimension of plot, but
with a greater consciousness of randomness and uncertainty - in other
words, like life, at least the way I have lived my life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, what has this got to do with death?  Once again, Fanny
Howe: &quot;God's mercy can often seem too close to neutrality for
comfort.&quot; Or, the materialist-skeptical me (the scientist) trying to
coexist with the invisible-faithful me (the poet).  Or, letting go,
making music - sound without words - or hiking the hills in a
perpetual now.  The spiral of my life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The trouble with writing about bewilderment is that it puts
order into chaos - &quot;language fails to deal with confusion.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;The whirling that is central to bewilderment is the natural
way for the lyric poet.  A dissolving of particularities into one solid
braid of sound.  Particularities crushed and compacted and redesigned to 
produce a perplexing music.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm quarreling with myself - searching for something that
cannot be found.  Long live the multiple!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Death is coming, so why bother?  Be a curious moving being or
die sooner rather than later.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
  </item>
  <item>
    <title>thinkerer</title>
    <link>http://www.haroldcarr.net/2004/08/02#2004-08-01-thinkerer</link>
    <description>
&lt;p&gt;So I guess I'm a &quot;thinkerer&quot; (Pierre Joris' word), tinkering
with words, sounds, structures.  Perhaps easily led astray, but persistent,
always thinkering.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Despite the raving of some postmodern thought, there is a
reality independent of me or you.  However, for us, &quot;reality is not
simply there, it must be searched for and won&quot; (Paul Celan).  (Note
the male conquest viz-a-viz Howe's bewilderment.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Poetry as a meeting place for all kinds of imagination&quot;
(Muriel Rukeyser).  (Note the female emphasis on community.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When you're down or confused &quot;is it depression or justifiable
despair?  Is it personal anxiety or social outrage?&quot; (Fanny Howe).
&quot;I lived in the first century of world wars.  Most mornings I would
be more or less insane.&quot; (Muriel Rukeyser).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Poets create language.  Writers of prose use language.&quot;
(Aime Cesaire).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;... that moment when it is our body/mind that speaks and not
that of our progenitors.&quot; (Pierre Joris).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, here it is, all laid out in front of us, surrounding us,
immersing us.  &quot;We stand in relationship with all the components of
the universe, as well as with the hereafter and with antiquity.  Which
relationships we will cultivate, which for us is preeminently important,
and which should be realized, depend only upon the course and duration
of our watchfulness.&quot; (Novalis).  (Note the male determinism.  How
about stumbling?)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
  </item>
  </channel>
</rss>
